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Lawmakers to consider bill allowing concealed handguns in church


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Updated: 2/02/2009 8:32 am Published: 2/01/2009 5:50 pm
We've heard the bone chilling stories about gunmen going on rampages during church services. Now one Arkansas lawmaker thinks she has the answer to stopping them: allowing licensed gun-owners to carry concealed handguns in church. But some think that solution would make Sunday morning service a lot more dangerous. We headed to the Church at Rock Creek Sunday morning to see what churchgoers think.

Pastor Mark Evans told FOX16, "I don't feel like there's any reason, any value, any long-term value to allowing people, to open up the door to allowing people to bring weapons into churches."

Some churchgoers agree. "I think this is the house of the Lord and you shouldn't have to bring a concealed weapon to church," Denise Thacker told us.

Pastor Evans says House Bill 1237 which would change the current law to allow concealed weapons in church would open up a Pandora's box of problems. How do you sort out those who have gun permits and those who don't? And Evans says even if all the gun owners are obeying the law won't there be accidents?

"If you're allowed to carry a concealed a handgun into church it could be used for good," said Jeremy Postlethwait. The church member is a licensed gun owner and says if someone opens fire at church people like him should be able to protect everyone else.

That's why the bill's author created the legislation. "I think this is a positive move to address this problem before we have something in our state," Representative Beverly Pyle told us. The Cedarville republican from District 83 says concealed weapon holders have gone through background checks and training. And she says they're the kind of people that should be allowed to carry guns in church. Pyle says her bill has support from democrats and republicans.

Pastor Evans says his church has a security plan in place including uniformed officers. He plans to leave the gun toting to the professionals. "We don't think the congregation should be our security force," Evans said.

Representative Pyle says the House Judiciary Committee will review the bill Tuesday. If it moves through committee it will go before the full house and then the senate.
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dsharp - 2/2/2009 5:19 PM
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Little Rock had a spate of convenience store robberies, and Tommy Robinson put booths inside the stores depicting a double-barrel shotgun held by a man on one-way mirrors. Because there might be a man inside that booth, they stopped overnight. If a person attempted to commit a crime in a church and knew there were possible concealed handguns carried by people trained to use them, there probably would not be any idiot who would try. Those kind of people are usually cowards who prey on the defenseless. Our freedoms are there because they were won by good men and women who were and are willing to put their lives on the line. The concealed handgun is just that-concealed. No person would ever know it is there until it is needed. D. Sharp, Gurdon

M R A Survivor - 2/2/2009 5:11 PM
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I am a concealed weapons permit holder, I dont see a problem having a firearm in church. If you are a concealed carrier you wouldnt advertise, and therefore nobody would know that you had a firearm unless circumstances arose where you had to use it. And then all would be greatful you did. To all the critics. If the life of your child were saved by a concealed weapons permit holder would you still be a critic? GOD GAVE US ENOUGH SENCE TO PROTECT OUR SELVES. SO DONT TRY TO BE SO GODLY THAT YOUR NO EARTHLY GOOD.

Arkie - 2/2/2009 4:16 PM
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Why is it up to some politician whether I can carry inside a Church or not? Seems they have the least to do with it. This should be a matter for the church and the people carrying, no government wanker needed to tell the little people what they can and can't do. Carry in church anyway. If you ever need it, you'll be glad you did, and no jury in Arkansas would convict you for carrying in church if you defended yourself. I would bet we would tar and feather the prosecutor as well. At least we should.

byHisbloodonly - 2/2/2009 10:21 AM
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It is my belief that we have the God given right to protect ourselves and defend our lives and the lives of our family, whether that be our church family or immediate family, I am a 38 year old female and I have a concealed carry permit, I also know that God is my ultimate protection, I also know in my heart that he has given me authority on this earth over evil and in the face of evil I also know that he has given me the right to protect myself and my child no matter where I am and no matter how it is to be done. I would not suggest that everyone go and get a permit or a gun unless you know in your heart of hearts that you could in a split second moral decision take the life of another human being, if it came to losing yours or your families life. I also know in the times that we live that the liberal politicians would like to take as many of our rights as they can to impose socialistic or in my view communistic government on our nation. Whether they realize what they do or not- God forgive them. The way I see it the KJV 1611 Bible prophecy's are taking place right before our eyes, and in our lifetime our second ammendment rights will be more important than they have been in the last 150 years. It's going to come to the point where people will have to decide to stand with God or stand against him. No riding the fence has ever been allowed no matter how gray the politics. I believe that there have been many many men from this great nation that have fought for and died for this country's freedom, and we as Christians are not standing up in the face of evil or in the gap for the Constitution or for Gods Holy Word, as we should, therefore we are letting them take away slowly every God given right and authority as believers that God himself bestowed on his children. We should have the right to carry a gun anywhere we want to protect ourselves from Satan's workers. I believe our first protection is the Word of God and secondly God given wisdom from his Word.

2Godbtheglory - 2/2/2009 8:19 AM
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Sure, everyone has the God given right to carry. Even in a church. However, I can't think of a better place to be if I were choosen to be with the Lord. Give mercy to those who do not know what they do. God is my gun. He is my weapon.

Matthew - 2/2/2009 8:19 AM
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This is just the type of controversial politics that distract us from more important issues. Hot Springs is in dire need of an overhaul and 'whether or not a deacon is sporting a .357' is the least of our worries. We need to focus on politics related to this town and how they have been 'questionable' for many, many years to say the least.

waynemonaghan - 2/2/2009 5:16 AM
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I always carry even in church. You never know when some anti Christ mentally ill Liberal will go insane (other than when he votes) and start shooting good people.

milburn - 2/1/2009 10:14 PM
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I would think that any church is at the mercy of those that would rob it as long as they knew that there would be no means of protection. Knowing that by law there would be an unknown number carrying firearms would be a great detriment to them.

DoubtingThomas - 2/1/2009 10:00 PM
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As I've said before, let the churches decide on their own. Pass the law, and get the state out of the process. Then churches can be treated just like any other property owner.

fox16viewer - 2/1/2009 9:33 PM
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I am a Police Officer here in Arkansas. I believe it should be left up to the people that have a concealed weapon. If they are confortable with carrying it in a church then that would be okay with me.. There are arguments for and against carrying it anywhere.. i think that the citizens of Arkansas should be allowed to protet themselves if needed.
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