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Legislators shoot down open-carry bill in House committee


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Reported by: David Goins
Updated: 2/10/2011 8:51 pm Published: 2/10/2011 6:03 pm
LITTLE ROCK, AR - A bill that would legalize the open carry of firearms fails in a big way at the state capitol today as a legislative committee takes the unusual step of deciding to vote to not pass a bill.

Arkansas will not join other states like Arizona that allow unrestricted open carry of guns. Several members of law enforcement lined up to oppose HB1051 today, which would legalize.

"This bill only further deteriorates officer safety on the highway," Lt. Cora Gentry with Arkansas State Police says. Gentry added it would be especially dangerous on traffic stops.

"If you're confronted with a person, or maybe two people, that come out of a car armed on their hip then officers are forced to make a decision in an even shorter period of time than they've ever had to make before," Gentry says.

Supporters say the licensing under the current carry-conceal law is too expensive and unlicensed open-carry would give easier access to guns for lower income people, an argument legislators took exception with.

"It comes back to the fact that some people here are interested in good law, making good law. And I don't understand why we take this back door approach," Rep Matthew Sheppard (R- El Dorado) says.

The House Judiciary Committee, in a rare move, shot down the bill, approving a do not pass motion.

"It’s very unusual you get a motion for do not pass, very unusual. I've only heard of it once,” bill sponsor Rep Denny Altes (R- Ft. Smith) says. "Somebody didn't like the bill. The whole section of code is real vague and we were just trying to help it, we didn't get it done."

Given how resounding this bill failed in committee, supporters of the legislation admit they're probably not going to try and bring it up again this session. But, perhaps in the future, rework it and try and see if they can get it passed.
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TheLastHuman - 2/16/2011 11:04 AM
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718inthe501 if someone is weak and defenseless then that is how they choose to be, we do have the option of concealed carry permits and a firearm is not the only means of defense nor is it always the the best means of defense and I feel much safer knowing that now the criminals can't just strap their gun to their hip and wonder freely without being questioned about it and that frail, weak defensless people can not strap a firearm to their hip only to go to the store and give it up to a criminal so that it can be used against me because they can not defend it or themselves to any degree without it.

TonyThom - 2/11/2011 2:42 PM
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if this bill dealt with open carry for those who already have carry conceal then maybe it would have had a better chance. Instead it was some sloppy concept to give open carry to anyone without training / permitting under the guise of giving access to guns to more low-income Arkansans. Nonsense. I'm all for the right to bear arms but that doesn't = "right to carry it anyway i want under any circumstance"

718inthe501 - 2/11/2011 11:30 AM
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How Pathetic! Once again giving ALL the criminals the situational advantage! Once again, proving they have nothing to fear from anyone because they are the only ones with guns!!! If you are a law abiding citizen, you take the propper classes, you pay the fees, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO ARM YOURSELF IN THE OPEN AS WELL AS CONCEALED. All of you nay sayers, I do understand some of your points, they are logical but nothing is fool proof in reality. All you are truly doing is keeping most law abiding citizens a POWERLESS VICTIM. Again, GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE! Saying otherwise is like saying forks and spoons make people fat. Just like Texas and some other states, OPEN CARRY LAWS are a HARD CORE CRIME DETERENT! Most all criminals, punks, thugs or what ever you want to call them are PREDITORS OF THE WEAK AND DEFENSELESS. Once you level the playing field, they all turn in to the cowards they are and you WILL see a reduction in personal violent crime after law abiding citizens take a stand and start to shoot back a few dozen times or so. YES, for now at least, it is still our right as law abiding citizen of the United States of America to BEAR ARMS!! Read our constitution. So go and thank your Arkansas Reps and Governor for keeping you all fearfull victims!

TheLastHuman - 2/11/2011 7:05 AM
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That's only legal is it's unloaded and the ammo is in a sperate compartment without a permit golfdude. The problem with just letting everyone open carry is people have no ideal of know if someone is a criminal or irresponsible or capable of hitting the target, as Massad Ayob says, anyone who carries a gun out in public knows or has a reasonable belief that at some point they may have to use it and while bearing arms is our God given right in this country, carrying a loaded gun in a public place where people and their children are the backstops is a privilege. We need to know which side your on and that we can trust you to shoot true. Another issue is that when someone can see the gun it's possible for them to try and take it from the person, so without some training in weapon retention it may easily fall into the hands of the wrong person, thank God everyone in the legislature is not a quack.

golfdude - 2/11/2011 5:37 AM
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Not needed anyway, I carry my pistol in my console most all of the time, especially if in remote areas fishing. Perfectly legal and really do not see the need to carry, but some people may live where it would be necessary, so they will just need to get a CW permit. No big deal

VMACFTW - 2/10/2011 11:30 PM
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As a defense instructor and a concealed carry safety instructor I would love to see the gun restrictions in this state eased. The fact is that criminals will be carrying concealed and they are not concerned with breaking the law. As citizens we have a right to protect ourselves. However, it is far easier for criminals to obtain guns than it is for honest citizens to do so without breaking the law. If a criminal wants to carry a gun they will. If a law abiding citizen wants to carry a gun they are hampered by law and legislation, thus deterring if not stopping their right to bear arms. I would be less concerned in a stadium full of Arkansas citizens who had obtained a firearm through a legal process than I am currently. If a criminal with an illegal automatic weapon were considering a mass homicide at a public event I would certainly think that armed citizens would give them a second thought. At the very least it would the citizens at the event a fighting chance to save their own life and maybe a few others. With all this being said I would like to add that Arkansas has some of the best laws on the books when it comes to using deadly force in defense of your life. I just think an open carry policy would have to entail the same educational requirements as the state now requires for concealed carry. Perhaps, if that was clarified and integrated into the bill it would help it along. While I am a vigorous supporter of law abiding citizens having an absolute right to protect themselves, I would never advocate the carrying or use of any deadly weapon without proper safety training. The objective at the heart of the matter is the ability to save lives, not create deaths due to accidents, negligence, lack of safety training or temporary loss of self control. The concealed carry requirements now in place ease the mind of officials for this reason. However, let us never forget that criminals care not about preventing deaths.

yidid2003 - 2/10/2011 7:50 PM
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OMG!!! An armed populus?????? We can never allow this! A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Any law that prevents open carry is against the United States Constitution... Bear means carry.

Carlj - 2/10/2011 7:43 PM
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I love the right to own and carry and I am an avid hunter and gun owner BUT.....I have to agree with the Law Enforcement on this one!!! Their job is tough and bad enough as it is.... Too many bad scenarios to count.
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